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…magically whisked away to….Massena.

February
26

Hi….I’m in Massena.

This is just how things worked out.  I’m going to miss John Jay vs. Rye…for the third time.  I’m not happy about it.

You won’t be hearing much from me, but I’ll try to throw a quick update up here whenever I can.  By the way, the name of the rink Clarkstown North is playing in tomorrow?  The Massena Arena.  I’m not making this up.  A rhyming rink.

This entry was posted on Monday, February 26th, 2007 at 9:46 pm by Daniel Kiernan. Print Print | Email Email

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103 Responses to “…magically whisked away to….Massena.”

  1. the måssena arena

    rumor has it that it is a very hard arena to play in…student body shows alot of support for big games…old…is this accurate dan?

  2. golden eagle

    Dan

    Assume that the JJ/Rye game will be covered tonight by the journal news?

  3. Rink

    Dan is this an Olmpic size rink?...if so that should help North out because they can skate.

  4. hockey2968

    Dan,
    I dont think its right at all for you to be all the way up there when you have a SECTIONAL FINAL game tonight where your actually suppose to be covering considering the journal news is down here, why did u decide to go up there?

  5. Division 1

    I think Dan should be up there. It’s Division 1 STATES. The big boys. Real hockey. Your game will get covered by another writer…what’s the big deal?

  6. who cares

    other than the parents and a few other people.. who really cares about the JJ/rye game. Good choice going up to Massena.. division 1 states!!! you are correct Division 1.. real hockey.. sorry JJ and Rye but you are the minor leagues at this point.. no offense

  7. LoHud Hockey

    I don’t think Dan will be able to respond at all. Not sure how easy it is to pick up a WiFi signal up there. Lots of cows, not too many people. I think they’re about 30 years behind the rest of the wold in Technology. He may have to stand on top of the Massena Arena with a Kettle drum to send his story back down here for publishing.

  8. Reality

    It’s like who do you cover in basketball?...Mt. Vernon or Rye Neck?...the answer is obvious.

  9. Question

    How does Massena even get into the outbracket tournament. I went on the Section 10 website and I see that they finished 2nd in the 4 team league and then lost the first round of the sectional playoffs. Can anyone answer this?

  10. North fan

    I think in Section 10, the do a little tournament of their own, from all teams eliminated from the playoffs, to determine who gets the Outbracket bid from that section… pretty weird huh?

  11. The Real Deal with Bill McNeil

    Will an olympic sized rink really help North? I mean if they don’t use any depth, those first line players will be exhausted chasing that puck around a larger rink. I see how it would help though, more skating room for their snipers to manuever.

  12. CrazJ40

    Massena may be in second but they only lost to the first place team by one goal in overtime. Doesnt look like much scoring going on in Section 10

  13. North fan
    • By the way for any North fan or Section 1 fan wanting to listen to the game, WE CAN!

      On Section 10’s website here:

      http://www.northcountrysports.net/webcasts.htm

      Just click on the blue link:

      “Clarksotwn North vs. Massena, 7pm Live”... and we will get the LIVE radio broadcast of this game! I think this is a great thing especially for all of us down here in Rockland who obviously can’t make the trip up!

      Good luck boys! Keep making us proud and representing Section 1 well!

  14. North fan

    http://www.northcountrysports.net/webcasts.htm

    Sorry – try clicking on the link now.. .if not, just copy and paste it into the URL address on the web…

  15. Answer

    After much research…..In section 10 the sectional winner goes to the State quarter finals ( Canton High School) and the NEXT highest seed in the REGULAR SEASON (Masenna High finished 2nd)goes to the out bracket game. Section 10 places great emphasis on the regular season.

  16. The Real Deal with Bill McNeil

    WOW!! You are in Massena…...Makes Delaware seem like the hot spot of this fine land.

  17. North is done

    For all of you who think JJ v RYE is not worth going to, it would be more exciting to see this game then to see North get embarassed. These teams have played some close games and its sure to be a thriller.

  18. JJ/Rye

    and the winner of this game is done in the first round of states. Neither team has beaten anyone near the caliber of what they will face upstate.

  19. LoHud Hockey

    Not every section sends the runner up. I believe Section 5 and/or section 6 send the winner of the sectional tourney to the quarters and the winner of the regular season league title to the outbracket. In our section, that would have had the same result. In the event that is the same team, then I’m not sure if it is the regular season runner up or the tournament runner up that goes to the outbracket.

  20. North!

    GO NORTH!!! No matter what happens upstate with the big boys you have made us proud this season and gone above and beyond what anyone thought!

  21. Hockey Fan

    Section 5 figures out the outbracket just like we do down here. Fairport lost to Aquinas in the finals, therefore Fairport enetered the outbracket

  22. The Real Deal with Bill McNeil

    Who thought Pelham would make it all the way to the final 4 last year. John Jay and Rye have a chance to win a game or 2 in the states. Section 1 has certainly closed the gap as far as talent is concerned. I will say this much, I bet whoever wins tonight plays a competitive game in the states win or lose.

  23. Great White North

    The trip up is not to bad the trip back is a bitch!!

  24. hockey10580

    Whoever says that Rye hasn’t played the caliber of team they will face upstate knows absolutely NOTHING. Rye has played four upstate teams during this season and last, including Salmon River (section 10). JJ/Rye do your research next time.

  25. RyeRules

    At the beginning of this season Rye played 2 very close games in the Rome NY tourney, both went to overtime. Everyone underestimates Rye and hopefully they show you all up tonight.

  26. Rye Hockey

    Who Cares,

    You dont know what you are talking about. You obviously have no idea what goes on in division 2. John Jay as well as Rye can compete with any Division 1 team and can be successful at that. Do some research you single minded person

  27. The Real Deal with Bill McNeil

    Rye and John Jay both beat the #4 seed Mamaroneck this year.And were competitive in the games verse North and Suffern. JJ or Rye will do fine in the states. THey will not get embarassed.

  28. who cares

    are you nuts.. yes the top teams in div. 2may be able to do well in division 1 but no way are they on the same level as north or suffern or mahopac for that matter… and i bet it will be a great game tonight.. i also saw a great squirt game last week.. ha ha

  29. C North

    Does anyone know if North left for their trip to Masenna yesterday or did they bus up there early this morning ?...just curious

  30. 2sense

    The North boys went up yesterday.

  31. Told You So

    Stop degrading D2. Its Section 1 hockey we should all be cheering. JJ/Rye winner will have their photo on the front page tomorrow morning while CN will have a small blurb somewhere on page 4. Dan does what he is told, he is an employee. Its not like the game wont get covered.

    JJ 3 Rye 2 in OT

  32. C North

    Thanks 2sense..I will be listening on that radio feed along with many other high school hockey fans

  33. 2sense

    Glad to hear that. The boys know they will have a lot of support not in bodies but in spirit. It means a lot to them.

  34. Daniel Kiernan

    to answer some of the questions I’ve seen…

    Yes, someone is covering the game at Brewster tonight, though I don’t know who. It’s much easier to get someone to go up there than to get someone to go to Massena, which is why I’m here.

    Massena Arena is a pretty interesting place. It looks olympic size, and there’s another rink right next to it, outside. Inside, it’s got a press box about four times the size of the one over at the Hommocks, as well as an enclosed box in the corner that I’ll try to weasel my way into.

    Massena’s bid in the state outbracket was based on their regular season standing. They knew they were in the state tournament before their section tournament began.

    And my internet access is a little limited up here, so I’ll be in and out.

    All of Massena’s games are broadcast on the radio up here. And I was actually just watching a game between Liverpool and Ithaca on TV in my room.

  35. mchink6

    Ain’t it great that they broadcast these games upstate!

    C’mon Cablevision, give me a good reason not to switch to satellite or verizon. I’m not interseted in a Saint Anthony’s of Jersey City vs. Linden basketball game.

    How about the Journal News..maybe in the future they could establish webcasts of local high school games that people in section 1 are interested in..it would be great exposure for the JN…Dan..talk this up to your editors..

  36. hello

    All sectional championship games in all sports should be on news 12. Instead all they do is replay the same newscasts 20 times in a row. How great would it be to watch these games on public tv. ITs a shame.
    Hey “who cares” please don’t put Mahopac in with Suffern and North. Mahopac has never won a thing…they are cinsistent “also rans”. Also, when Suffern had an awesome team a few years ago, Pelham beat them twice ( I believe their only 2 league losses) so lets not put down the smaller schools. John Jay, Pelham, Fox Lane, Rye are all a lot better than most of the big schools.

  37. RyeRules

    Rye is probably the smallest school in section 1, they have a lot of talented kids that can compete with any team. Although they are not as deep as teams like suffern and north they can’t be overlooked

  38. hey dan...

    while ur coming back down 81 south tomorrow, how about u spend a night or two in syracuse and then hang a right onto 490 West and then spend a few nights in buffalo to watch the fordham v st joe’s game for catholic states? just a thought

    but seriously will anyone be covering that game?

  39. tourney time

    anybody know why a lot of Buffalo area teams do not participate in the State tournament? and why doesn’t Long Island? LI has some great travel and junior programs, but nothing at the public high school level. what’s up with that? anyone know?

  40. Starship trooper

    Tourney time
    Because those high school hockey program are club teams, not sanctioned varsity teams….. So they go to a club high school state tourney sanctioned by USA Hockey.

  41. Running on Empty

    Any idea why Section 1 teams must drive to Section 10 or 2 locations for games and not the other way around? Clarkstown North at Massena, Suffern vs. Shed at Clifton Park, and the Division 2 winner at the Section 10 winner (probably at Clarkson – about 360 miles away). Did the Section 1 officials not show up when all these things were decided?

  42. answer

    it rotates around…Suffern played the regionals @ Shen 2 years ago and then Shen came down to Suffern last year…Now Suffern goes back to Shen this Saturday…Pelham played Burnt Hills/Scotia in the regionals last year in a game played at the ice hutch in Mt. Vernon…so the winner of D2 rotates with the years and travels to Section 10…Also last year in the first game of the outbracket CBA came down to Sport-O-Rama and lost to North 8-1…This year CBA hosted North.

  43. webscast

    http://northcountrysports.net/webcasts.htm

    starts in 15 minutes

  44. hello

    I can’t get connected. Please give updates if you can get the feed. I have a mac , that might be the problem.

  45. game

    it’s on.. i am listening. .at work waiting for a meeting with a client.. hope they are late.. CN won the face off

  46. update

    CN 1-0 willows scores on 2-1

  47. update

    2-0 cn

  48. hello

    Wow, off to a great start

  49. update

    rich got the first goal.. matt got the second just 41 seconds later

  50. update

    tons of pressure by CN..

  51. hmmmm

    1-0 north end of first

  52. update

    2-0 north end of first

  53. Told You So

    hey North, we are all rooting for you guys. up 2-0, keep it up. GO SECT 1

  54. Told You So

    sounds to me like these guys have no respect for Sect 1 hockey. maybe now this section will get the recognition it deserves….i hope they blow massena out and shut these dudes up

  55. giants hater

    Dan you shouldn’t complain about being up there instead of
    being at Brewster covering the Rye John Jay game.
    I wish I was there seeing that game they need to even it out
    some teams come down here for tourniments and some of our
    teams go up both sides westchester and rockland.
    Long Island doesn’t have much of a hockey program
    I know Chris Higgins comes from there and plays for the
    Montreal Canadiens but theres very few teams it’s
    not like westchester. Dan your a very lucky man to be on
    route 34 south of canadien bridge Ottowa in Massena seeing
    N.Y. farthest team play Massena I wish I was there.
    How long is the trip 8 , 8.5 , or 9 hours?

  56. Section 1 Rules

    3-0 North Willows scores again!!!!!!

  57. Told You So

    These guys dont sound too happy do they?

  58. Told You So

    Why do they keep calling McIndoe, Cincotta? are they using last years rosters? holy moly, get the kids names right!

  59. mchink6

    giants hater..

    Long Island has some of the best travel club programs in the state. The Public Schools also are club. St. Mary’s High School club team would probably win section 1 most years.

    Go North!

  60. hmmmm

    hey i cant tell if these guys are showing respect to section 1 or the north first line. they keep speaking highly of something though. not trashing section 1 at all. i guess u cant when ur losing 3-0 to north!

  61. update

    3-0 north

  62. Told You So

    So how good is Lancaster? This game is OVER.

  63. Section 1 Rules

    Told you so, you are speaking too early. What is up with this guy clearing his throat. Someone give this guy a Sucrets throat lozenge.

  64. giants hater

    No I asked my brother’s brother in law about long Island
    hockey there’s not much in the way of high school hockey.
    His scool doesn’t have 1 My younger cousin’s doesn’t
    my uncle’s school doesn’t have one it’s not like westchester
    maybe there’s a few but thats about it. My aunt told me
    on the phone that there’s not much Ice out there.

  65. o werd?

    yeah still 3-0 north wit bout 4 mins left in the second and massena had a goal disallowed and north came rite back and hit the post!....back and forth game..Mcindoe is playing very well..KJ has done a great job with that kid

  66. Section 1 Rules

    OH BABY 4-0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Who says you need depth to win upstate?

  67. Told You So

    S1Rules
    speaking to early? are you kidding…its O V E R.

  68. Told You So

    JJ/RYE score???? anyone?

  69. Update

    4-0 North at the end of the 2nd…2 goals matty w, 1 goal josh s and i think the other goal is from richy w..It seems like everyone saying North cant compete with them is wrong..seems like Massena cant compete with section 1..lol..keep it rollin North

  70. Section 1 Rules

    Alot of dump and chase in the 3rd period? Kill off some clock?
    Hey Told you so…I guess you told me so. LOL
    But anything can happen…I wanna hear that fat lady singing very soon.

  71. Is this a different C North Coach

    Seems like the C North Coach wised up and is now playing 2lines pretty frequently

  72. Section 1 Rules

    Hey, this North coach has done a really good job this year. Especially as a rookie. TO get these playing like this way upstate, after a heartbreaking loss is a real good job. I mean Massena is supposed to be really good this year. So far it is 4-0, but hopefully I am not jinxing anything.

  73. Section 1 Rules

    Is Cincotta even on the team? Why is he saying Cincotta? Is he the backup goalie?

  74. Phil Rizzuto

    HOLY COW!!!!!!!! North winning 5-0!!!!!!!!!

  75. Phil Rizzuto

    Is there a Rye JJ score yet?
    Holy Cow!!!! 6-0!!!!
    This is getting ugly!!!!
    Massena??? what is up with that????

  76. Hulk HOgan

    What ya gonna do Massena….when North Mania gets a hold of you???

  77. JOhn Daviidson

    Oh baby… Bring on Lancaster!!!!

  78. Alum

    Anyone have an update/ score for the JJ/ Rye game??

  79. Section 1 Rules

    Hey at least Massena does not have a long drive home after tonights thrashing.

  80. Carmen Electra

    6-0???
    Are they playing Massena or Nyack?

  81. McIndoes shadow

    About time they got the kids name correct!!! They are not pronouncing it right but at least they are not calling him Cincotta anymore! Go McIndoe!!!

  82. NORTH FAN

    WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo

    WAY TO GO BOYS! I’M PROUD!

    DOES MATT WILLOWS NOW HAVE 100 POINTS ON THE SEASON>!>!>> Hanson Brother

    Damn it, no shutout.
    6-1 North winning.

  83. suffern fan

    way to go north.. great game

  84. fan2

    GO NORTH!!! It’s time to shuffle off to Buffalo—knew you could do it boys!!! KEEP GOING ALL THE WAY TO UTICA!!! Nice to see the coach playing 2 lines and 4 or 5 defenseman—you need that to compete with these upstate teams.

  85. hello

    what was the final?

  86. suffern fan

    6-1.. yes they played 2 full lines.. shots on goal cn 42 massena 28

  87. next game

    So how is Norths next oppenent?

  88. big fan

    that messina team must be a joke. anyone in league 1 could have put up a better fight and probably most eams in league 2

  89. NORTH FAN

    They play Lancaster in Buffalo – we need to scout them!

  90. CHSHL

    Dan, you gonna be up there for CHSHL States?

  91. hello

    not so much that massena are a joke. More like we got some bad-ass teams down here near the big city!!!!

  92. big fan

    ok that is fair hello, what was the score of rye/jj was that 3-2 in ot legit?

  93. ?

    No, that 3-2 ot was a prediction. Who has Rye/JJ score?

  94. Alum

    rumor is rye 5-1 after 2 periods

  95. suffern fan

    final was 7-2

  96. ?

    rye wins?

  97. Alum

    i heard 6-1 final, rye wins

  98. .....

    Wow, enormous win for rye, great job boys

  99. sec1

    best 10 returning players for each league any takers?

  100. Jordan Levantanse

    Rye 6 JJ 1 great game with an NHL like atmosphere,the fans were so loud, and jordan really stood up today, maybe the seat was cold. scored 2 goals on the penalty kill in one shift. Whoever questioned whether Marshall rogers was a 3 goal differencial was wrong

  101. predictions

    http://www.bracketmaker.com/predict_list.cfm?parent=392046

    go to this link and make your predictions

  102. giants hater

    To answer the question Lancaster as of Februrary 18
    they are 10-5-1 they won some non league games as well
    as league games there in third place. I think they split
    the serise with Orchard park theres 2 teams kenmore East
    and Kenmore west 1 is division 1 I think east and the other
    is division 2 I think west. probably another serise split.

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