Playoff dates/times
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- February
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First, thanks to everyone for the kind words, and for keeping the blog alive this weekend. I’ll have some more extensive thoughts on this weekend’s action later today, but first I wanted to post the updated playoff seeds, along with the times that have already been determined. You’ll notice that Ebersole was not approved. The rink needed to add a wind screen, additional seating and security, and the rink management did not comply.
Division 1
First round Monday 2/18, Quarters Thursday 2/21, Semis Sat. 2/23, Final Monday 2/25
1. Suffern
2. Mamaroneck
3. Rye Town/Harrison
4. Mahopac (1-11-1) or Clarkstown North (1-12)
5. Clarkstown North or Mahopac
6. White Plains
7. Scarsdale
8. Mt. Pleasant—STILL NEEDS A TIE IN FINAL GAME
9. North Rockland
10. E/T/B
11. New Rochelle
12. Sleepy Hollow/Irvington—STILL NEEDS A WIN IN FINAL GAME
Note: If North pulls a huge upset vs. Pelham, it can overtake Mahopac , though the Indians still have a game left at Rye.
Division 2
First round Tuesday 2/19, Quarters Friday 2/22, Semis Sunday 2/24, Final Tuesday 2/26
1. Pelham
2. Rye
3. John Jay
4. Yorktown
5. Brewster
6. Pawling/Dover
7. Ossining
8. Kennedy/Putnam Valley
9. Somers/North Salem (11-4-1)
10. Pearl River (9-4)
11. Horace Greeley
Note: Pearl River (@Carmel, @New Ro, @SH/I) must win all three of its remaining games to overtake Somers/North Salem.
PLAYOFF SCHEDULE
Division I
First round
No. 10 ETB at No. 7 Scarsdale, Ice Hutch 730 PM
No. 11 New Ro at No. 6 White Plains, Playland 715 PM
Quarters
8/9 winner at No. 1 Suffern, Sportorama 730 PM
7/10 winner at No. 2 Mamaroneck, Hommocks 8 PM
6/11 winner at No. 3 Rye Town/Harrison, Playland 8 PM
Division II
First round
No. 11 Greeley at No. 6 Pawling, Trinity/Pawling 730 PM
No. 10 Pearl River (or S/NS) at No. 7 Ossining, Ice Hutch 730 PM
No. 9 Somers/NS (or PR) at No. 8 Kennedy/PV, Brewster 8 PM
Quarters
8/9 winner at No. 1 Pelham, Ice Hutch 730 PM
7/10 winner at No. 2 Rye, Playland 3 PM
6/11 winner at No. 3 John Jay, Brewster 7 PM
No. 5 Brewster at No. 4 Yorktown, Brewster 9 PM
As soon as I get additional information on playoff times, I will post it here.
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Welcome Back. Hope your visit was healing. Was a very exciting weekend of hockey including Suffern/Mamaroneck. Some good matchups this week. Where you gonna be?
I see many upsets during the first two rounds , but in the end , I like the top two seeds in both brackets
In case you find it easier to look at it this way, here is the D1 Bracket as it stands right now (could change if CN overtakes Mahopac, Sleepy doesn’t qualify, and/or Mt. Pleasant doesn’t qualify):
http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cfm?tid=257314&tclass=
Wow what alot of talk about HS hockey. I just wanted to know who does the stats and are they going to update them and get them correct. It seems very unfair that players who are always in the blogs and or division 1 seem to get their stats up and correct. It seems that the blogs pick the MVP’s not the true stats. There are alot of great athletes out there that are not getting the credit they deserve because they do not go to the school of chioce. Also was wondering how many games do you have to play to get yours stats up, is there a min games/periods you must play? if not there should be. How can a player who plays less then 1 game be #1 in stats.Just some thoughts. And we as a country wonder why we have the problems we have, look around people.
And here’s D2 (Will only change if PR overtakes Somers):
http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cfm?tid=257315&tclass=Section%201%20Division%202
Here is the D2 bracket, which could still change, but only if PR can win those 3 games and overtake Somers/North Salem:
http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cfm?tid=257315&tclass=Section%201%20Division%202
Ooops….looks like RTH stumbled and lost to Yorktown!
What the heck are you talking about “little fish.” Go back to the little fishies, you are not welcome here with the big fish.
Stumbled? That’s more than a stumble. On senior night too. I am sure they are not making any excuses; however, they have two of their top players out. They seem to only play well against the better teams and play everybody against the lower teams to get everybody ice. . Didnt they do this last year too..where towards the end of the season they went from tied for League 2 title to an end of the season spiral until playoffs. I am sure once they are back playing and healthy they will be fine. When does Urban come back?
Harold,
Why is Pawling seeded higher than Ossining? I see Max Preps has Ossining’s league record as 7-4-1 and Pawling at 7-5. Do they use league record or overall record for seeding?
Harold,
Never mind, My bad. O is 7-5 and P is 7-4-1.
It is crazy how this year there is such a huge difference between the #1 and #2 seed in the playoffs. Due to the weakness of CN and Mahopac Suffern basically doesn’t even have to show up for the 1/4 and semis. I hope this doesn’t hurt them going into the final.
Could be some ice time for the rookies in the first 2 play-off games. Suffern will step it up for the finals and should be well rested and confident.
SuffernDukefan,
I’ll be at Suffern-Rye Wednesday and Suffern-Monroe Woodbury Friday, and hopefully Game 1 of the CHSHL final on Saturday.
Little fish,
If you have a correction to the stats that we have, tell your coach to e-mail me or call the scores hotline. I would hate for our stats to undermine your faith in our country.
The rankings should not be based on what league a team is in. There are teams in lower leagues that are clearly better than the teams in higher leagues. Not to say anything ad about a specific team but Mahopac and North have only one one game all year so why should they be ranked in spots 4 and 5? White Plains has beaten North and Rye Town this year and is clearly better than Mahopac so why shouldnt they be ranked above them? Let’s put the best teams in the highest ranks and not weight it based on league.
noseman,
i agreed with you on this when i played in Leauge 2 or Leauge 3 but the truth of the matter is that if you play in the most competitive leauge then you gain the highest seeding. If your team is really good enough to have earned a higher seed they’ll prove it in sectionals
Its based on a power league. Those teams are having down years but its not the norm but the exception. As stated on this blog over and over again teams upset with this in lower leagues could have moved up but declined. If they truly are better than these lower leagues teams have an opportunity to prove it
noseman-
It is tough to find a happy medium with how to do the seedings. North & Mahopac’s records suffered because they were playing above their heads in the league they are in. Should a team that is 1-13 get the 5th seed in a 12-team tourney? Ideally, no, however going based on record won’t work either. Right now, New Rochelle is in league 4 with a 13-2 record. Assuming they beat PR in their final league game, they will be 14-2. Mamaroneck is 12-2 and WP 12-0. If we go based solely on records regardless of league, then the top four seeds in the D1 tourney would be Suffern, WP, NewRo, then Mamk. There is no way that WP or NewRo should be seeded higher than Mamk, so that wouldn’t work either.
The only possible way to do it would be to weight everyone’s records based on league. So when figuring out the seedings maybe add points to the winning percentage for every league you move up. So say league 4 teams use their actual winning percentage, add 50 to the winning percentage of a league 3 team, 150 to a league 2 team and 300 to a league 1 team. Then you do get an advantage for being in a higher league, but not one like North & Mahopac are getting this year. With that system, your top seeding in D1 would be Suffern, Mamk, WP, NRockalnd, RTH, NewRo, ETB, Scarsdale, Sleepy, Mahopac, MtPleasant, CN. In D2, you would have Pelham, KPV, Rye, Yorktown, Somers, PR, Pawling, Ossining, JJ, Brewster, Greeley.
It wouldn’t be a perfect system, and of course you could tinker with the numbers to be added for each league, but something like that is the only happy medium I can think of.
Now the thing is to straighten out D I and DII. The enrollment numbers with the combined schools moving DI teams into DII is not good. I root for Rye, and if we play Yorktown Brewster or Jay they are twice our school size.
To Ouch, RTH played only their best last night and played to win, they did everything they could to win this game, they were outplayed by Yorktown badly, Yorktown took the body well and took RTH out of many offensive opportunities, although RTH’s #22 had many chances in the first period to change the momentum. Yorktown’s goalie played very well and was probably the difference, a bad turnover by RTH defense led to a shorthanded goal by Yorktown’s #87….BTW the refs were horrendous, worse then ever, what a disgrace, I can’t even describe how bad they were, seemed like they both were in over their heads on this one, for both teams equally bad. what a shame…hs hockey! what else would you expect?!
I don’t understand the the “straighten out DI and DII” comment. Many combined schools are still in D2 because even when adding up the schools populations the merged schools still lhave ess students than the DI schools.
Regardless, enrollment numbers are not as important with hockey programs as say with a football program. Good hockey schools usually require the right demographic (families who can afford hockey) and logistics (access to a rink). From that start, if you have a good coach who is organized and committed, you can develop a viable program.
Thats what Pelham and Rye do. Other same-size schools or larger with the same advantages do not.
Westchester…you clearly are Yorktown fan as you have not seen RTH play then this year if you think that was their good game. They had a player on their first line the entire night that has seen 3 shifts the entire year (he played okay too). Yes, Yorktown played well. I was not making excuses for the team. But RTH has had a string of lesser games that they have not played well in and have many guys out. No excuses, they lost. Yorktown played well. I was not taking anything away from Yorktown.
Whats the matter big fish, did I hit a nerve or should I say did you get hooked.And by the way I like swimming with the big fish it only makes me stronger.
Harold thanks for the info. Little fish.
The argument that Rye and Pelham have successful programs because they are more affluent towns and have rinks is fallacious. First, there are towns across the economic spectrum that have hockey teams, not just the affluent ones. Take a look at the Div. I seedings. They do not follow relative affluence. Second, not everyone who plays hockey in Rye and Pelham is necessarily more affluent than every player in other towns which are not as successful. Third, there are many rinks in Westchester an insignificant drive away and hockey players do not confine themselves to the rink in their town. The only purpose of this argument seems to be to devalue Rye and Pelham’s success. Or, if Travel Team insists on his/her view, then I would say haven’t you heard that money frequently follows intelligence and talent? Maybe these teams are successful because they are populated with intelligent, talented players.
Can’t wait for the playoffs to start next week!
Looks like Suffern will have an easy way to the Finals, as they will play probably play North Rockland in the Quarters and either CN or Mahopac in the Semis. That’s what you get for earning the #1 seed.
Either Rye Town’s or White Plains’ season will come to and end early when they face eachother in the Quarters. A shame about that, beacuse both had great years. But that just shows when there is an unusually strong team for one league (White Plains in League 2), and an unusually weak team for another League (CN in League 1). The offset is of that is you have two top teams facing in the Quarters. Nonetheless, should be a great game.
Stop with the $ Thing….you are a complete moron. First of all….of course money has an effect on who can play hockey. Do you think that just anyone can afford to play hockey because if you answer yes to that you are just plain lying. Equipment alone is far more than any other sport.
And as for your comment about money, intelligence, and talent, you are just plain rude and you show your true colors as to WHERE YOU COME FROM.
oh no you dont you are a jerk, that is a great point. Pelham and Rye always get their success equated with the money thing. How about Scarsdale? John Jay Katonah? Rye Town and Harrison? Mt Pleasant? Byram Hills? Eastchester? Tuckahoe? Bronxville? Horace Greely in Chappaqua? Pearl River? Somers and North Salem? are you kidding? Rye and Pelham have been dominant for years and to minimize that based on affluence is a joke. The above mentinoed teams have as much or more affluence than both Pelham and Rye, and almost every one of these high school teams mentioned above have significantly higher enrollments and reasonable rink and youth hockwy access. The difference is that none of them have won anything. I am not ripping on these teams but trying to present facts about Ryes hockey successes and where it comes from.
Sorry, “Stop with the $ thing” but “you’re a JERK” is correct. For you to say that $ isn’t important to who plays hockey is just crazy. I would also like for you to tell us where these teams are that, as you put it are “across the economic spectrum” I never really heard of Harlems, south bronx’s or any other lower income community’s, strong hockey traditions. But, maybe I am missing something.
I really don’t understand why people get so worked up over this money topic. “I am in this one” and “stop with the $”. Where are you from? are you from Rye and somehow take the comment about $ as less then a compliment? Do you really care that someone thinks your kid is a good player because you have money? If yes, WHY??? How is that a derogatory statement? Be proud that you got some dough and were able to give little jr. the best that you could. You worked hard for you money and what better way of spending it then on your kid and what makes him happy?? And for all of the others who are jealous, stop blaming others success for your failures. It is not their fault you can’t get a job making more then minimum wage. There also might be an argument that once you reach a certain level of wealth the quality of hockey actually goes down. These parents are making their kid play tennis, chess and games that won’t get their “little boy” hurt.
I am in this one….I am not minimizing anyone’s success but to say that money does not come into play in regards to
who plays hockey is just simply ridiculous. Look at the places you just mentioned…..it proves my point!
Money is a factor but there are many or several schools with equal money and economic advantages that do not have Ryes success. So get off its all about money. That goes for Pelham too.
Come on “I am in”, I don’t think anyone is saying it is the only reason why a team/kid is good. Of course there are many other factors. But, you have to admit, (most of the time) you need to have some money to compete in this sport. So what is the secret to Rye success, and if you can give me the reasons and never write a check for hockey again, I will believe you.
Money only plays a small role in it. Face it, hockey is probably the most expensive sport to play because of the cost of equipment & ice time. On top of that, because of the added skill-set of needing to know how to skate, you eliminate the ability to pick up the sport in 7th or 8th grade and excel like many other sports (football, basketball, LAX. etc.). So the fact that a money commitment needs to be made starting at an early age brings money into it.
That being said, there are 30 teams in this section representing 43 schools. The less affluent districts either don’t have teams or have merged with other schools so the handful of kids who do play hockey have an outlet to do so. Once we are down to those 30 teams, money no longer comes into play, everyone on a varsity ice hockey team in section 1 can afford to play hockey, it doesn’t matter if your parents make a million dollars a year or 50 grand. If the quality of the team were based on affluence, Horace Greeley would have a few state titles by now, meanwhile they are toiling in league 4 and barely qualified for the post season.
Rye, Pelham, Suffern, & Mamk win because of coaching, player development & tradition. Winning begets winning. If you sustain a good program for a decade (multiple decades in the case of these four schools), the young kids grow up WANTING to play for the varsity team and you have 50 kids to pull from rather than a school like TZ or Nyack that puts anyone who knows how to skate on the varsity team because they are hurting for bodies.
It’s just like when Steinbrenner signs someone, and in the press conference they always say “I wanted to play for the Yankees since I was a little boy.” Thats not public relations BS, it is true. The Yankees have always been the cream of the crop, so all ballplayers jump at the chance to play for them. Who have you ever heard say “My lifelong dream was to be a Kansas City Royal” aside, of course, from kids who live in the KC area?
If you go to a Suffern game, watch the door where the Suffern players enter the rink while they are walking on. Every little kid in the ramapo central school district who plays hockey hangs out over there in hopes of getting to pat the Suffern players on the back as they enter the ice. Heck, if Tom Natoli told them to throw a virgin into a volcano, these kids would probably do it. That’s how you build a program. Creating kids that will do anything to play for the team, not through simply living in a town where 7-figure salaries are the norm.
I wouldn’t say I am a jerk, maybe a bit of a noodge on this, but it is brought on by this silly generalization about money that is frequently repeated in this blog. Given the number of competitive teams throughout the state, there seem to be plenty of people finding enough money to play hockey. Basically, I think there are a number of things that go into a successful program, one of which is a love of the sport and a commitment to it. Hockey is obviously not so elite that it is only being played in affluent towns.
I wasn’t intending to devalue the Rye and Pelham programs. They win because of good coaches, good hockey tradition, and an organized program. Suffern and Mamaroneck too.
However, you need families who can afford to begin their kids as elementary school age in hockey programs. The Rye and Pelham families will make the time and $$$ committment because they see or feel the success of the programs in the district.
And yes there are other similarly advantaged districts with not good coaching and no organization and their HS hockey programs lack of success is reflected in the standings.
This was meant as a compliment to the Rye and Pelham programs.
Ok…maybe I was too harsh in saying that you both were jerks but I was just trying to state that it does take money to play the sport but again, I do not think that money makes you successful in the sport. I apolize.
Oops…I mean apologize!
how come the fox lane north rockland game has yet to be posted. Stats and all
Apology accepted. My comment about money, intelligence and talent was intended to illustrate that generalizations can be offensive. There are bright, talented kids in every town.
Thanks to Lohud Hockey for a detailed discourse on what makes a successful program.
Sorry for the long-windedness on that one. I’m even worse in person when it comes to being long-winded.
I vote for LoHud Hockey for MVP. Who cares if he has no goals or assists. He has information and style.
I second that BIFF..and would still love to know what mere mortal has this amount of brain power.. lets get the chant going..
MVP
MVP
MVP
MVP..COME ON..
MVP
MVP
What side of the river are you on?
now talkin about the mvp. Are kids from Iona prep and stepinac allowed to be mvp because i believe there are a few kids on each team that deserve to be in the running.
iona prep=king and mccabe
stepinac=datino and reagan
All four of these kids are having a great season and lead there teams to the championship game.Also any predictions on the iona stepinac game on saturday at 730
Sorry to say but Have to give the “NOD” to Stepinac. A few Iona players are skipping the game to play in a showcase. Stepinac in “TWO”!
Funny how Pearl River was mentioned as a rich money town with Scarsdale. All the cops and firemen who live there will get a good laugh on that one.
That’s a trick question. I grew up west of the river, I live west of the river, but as I type this, I am in an office building east of the river.
How can you give the nod to stepinac when their number one goalie will also be playing at the showcase along with one of stepinacs defensemen. Backup goalie will get lit up.
Fox Lane,
Tell your coach to call in the game tonight. I’ll also try and reach out to him.
Also, some more times have been added to list of DII playoff times. Ossining’s first round game is 7:30 at the Ice Hutch, and Pawling’s first round game is 7:30 at T/P. And the Yorktown-Brewster and JJ quarterfinal times have been swapped, so JJ goes on first at 7.
postman, should I wear a yellow carnation on my lapel at the Suffern/MW game Friday night like some ‘50s gangster movie so you can see who I am?
Mmm
This is taken from a website called Citidata for real estate etc.
Median household income numbers
Suffern 70,100
New Rochelle 67,200
Eastchester 84,440
Pearl River 88,700
Rye 93,120
Scarsdale 206,200
I`d say Pearl River can afford hockey
PLAYOFFS,
Goalie will be there and so will their defensemen.
I second the motion for LoHud Hockey as Section 1 MVP. He’s a star. And LoHud – based on the weather, have fun getting over the TZ bridge tonight
Lo Hud don’t shoot anyone the finger or you will be out of consideration.
Also Stepinac in 3 peaking at the right time.
I didn’t realize Scarsdale was THAT rich. And look at Chappaqua, their median income is like 180 grand a year. Sure you can’t have a town like Mount Vernon playing hockey but there are plenty of towns with more money than Pelham and Rye that suck at hockey.
Westchester
February 12th, 2008 at 11:24 am
To Ouch, RTH played only their best last night and played to win, they did everything they could to win this game, they were outplayed by Yorktown badly, Yorktown took the body well and took RTH out of many offensive opportunities, although RTH’s #22 had many chances in the first period to change the momentum. Yorktown’s goalie played very well and was probably the difference, a bad turnover by RTH defense led to a shorthanded goal by Yorktown’s #87….BTW the refs were horrendous, worse then ever, what a disgrace, I can’t even describe how bad they were, seemed like they both were in over their heads on this one, for both teams equally bad. what a shame…hs hockey! what else would you expect?!
Question what is the hardest sport to officiate… ?
Who suggests to their children/players give officiating a go… ?
Most second guess the referee yet have a distorted view…
What referees will get the playoffs ?
To Pearl River Fire Man,
There is no possible way that Pearl River is only 5 thousand less than Rye in the median income category. That Rye stat is wrong, I guarantee it. I guess the Firemen and Police in Pearl River are pulling in a lot of overtime.
You have to admit, PEarl River is traditionally viewed as a blue collar town.
Rye is not all multi-million dollar houses. There are apartments, condos and co-ops. There are old-timers who have lived here a long time. We also have policemen, firemen and teachers living here. Certainly there are some very wealthy people living here, but it is not across the board.
Who cares how much people make. In society now a days if your kid wants to play something you will beg, borrow and steal to get them the things they need to do it. Hockey isn’t that expensive per year. The equipment on the younger level is under $1000 and cheap travel programs are out there. When they get older you can find deals and buy used or hand me down stuff. Either way a couple of thousand to keep your kids off the street is worth it.
The income stats quoted for Rye are not correct. They are either outdated, or are possibly for or include the Town of Rye. According to Wikipedia, the median income in 2000 for a household in the City of Rye was $110,894, and the median income for a family was $133,231. These amounts are in line with the amounts reported by Westchester Magazine.
Notwithstanding, I agree with those that who argue that median family income is not the key predictor for consistently winning High school hockey programs in Section 1. If that were the case, Horace Greeley and Scarsdale would be hockey powerhouses. Income may be a factor, because of the high cost associated with the youth feeder programs. But tradition, and quality of coaching play a major part.
Seriously who cares how much rye people make or anyone else. Give me some tough kids from Yonkers or some other working class town and watch everyone else go thru the glass. You need a edge out there.
ouch is correct about rth having a player on the first line who didn’t see too much ice all season
You can’t even begin to put the success of the major programs in section 1 all on a money factor. look at Rye and Mamaroneck, two section 1 powerhouses, both with state championship winning teams in other sports that dont require nearly as much money to play. Pelham has been to 15 out of the last 19 section finals, and the reason, Ed Witz. Beside Shelling, hands down the best coach in section 1, not even close. year after year, he always has the smallest team, no jv program, forced to play 9nth graders, and still every year he has his team in league 1, against schools much bigger, with full modified, and jv programs, as well as traveling to places like Salmon River, and winning, and he wins or competes every year, all gearing toward getting his team in position to win the section every single year. Rye, is just an example of model athletics in section 1. football, field hockey, ice hockey, every year these kids are competing and winning against the best in the state because of tradition and the hardwork that they put in. mamaroneck, although stacked in terms of number of kids in the program, is there every year. one of the reasons they have so many kids is because of all the success they have. also, a big is because crazy chapirelle gets them to play and play hard every year. They lose some of their best talent to prep school every year, players like Tom Capalbo, Jack Devaney, and the Lehegh brothers a few years back, two of them going D1, and still manage to be there every year. Suffern, Shelling is great, and walk into sport-o-rama, and its enough said.
Kind of funny how Scarsdale has such a high income rate but yet they won’t even build a rink and instead play out of rink in MOUNT VERNON.
Hey How do you now that the Step goalie and defenseman arent going to the showcase?????????
reagan and odardi will probably go up to the showcase for friday games come home and then go back up that is commitment will the suffren boys be playing for the ny saint??? they are in a dead heat for a playoff race and have a few injuries need every body they can get
Just wanted to give my opinion on why some programs are better than others. It has less to do with money than you think. Suffern has one of the best programs every year and is a very blue collar town. It also has less to do with the coach than you think. Let’s look at Clarkstown North. Last year, they had one of the best teams in the state, and this year they have one win, with the same coach. It’s not his fault, he’s an excellent coach…he just has less talent to work with this year. That’s the key, obviously, talent. The teams with the best talent win.
There are 3 teams in the area that pretty much are the best teams every year. Suffern, Mamaroneck, and Pelham. Sure, other teams have some good runs (Rye, C North, New Ro, Mahopac, JJ), but these 3, over the last 20 years, have been the most consistant at being the best. Why? What do they have that other programs don’t? Easy…a great feeder program. Not only that, but their feeder system almost exclusively has kids from their town. That’s huge. If you live in Suffern, you play for the Saints in a rink very close (Monsey), in Mamaroneck, you play for Mamaroneck in a rink in town, and in Pelham, you play for Pelham in a rink that’s about 3 blocks from the HS school. I’m sure that every now and again those programs have out of town kids, but that’s the exception, not the rule. I bet most of the kids on those 3 high school teams came up through their town feeder teams. All three HS coaches are very hands on with those feeder teams (especially Witz who runs the feeder program).
Look at the powers in other sports. I mean the teams that are always good. Yorktown, Somers, and JJ in lax. Mt. Vernon and WP in basketball. N. Rockland in football. I know there’s many others in other sports, but you get the point. Of course they all have good coaching, but check their feeder programs…they are probably the best.
In hockey, more travel players equal more talent, and obviously, more talent means more success. I bet Suff, Mam, and Pel have very few kids on their roster that don’t play travel. Other teams have travel players, but they don’t all play in the same programs, and it’s tougher for a HS coach to keep track of them. That’s why some teams have good runs for a couple of years, then fade.
Bottom line…Suff, Mam, and Pel have great teams, and the best feeder systems. They have a lot of hard working people (parents, kids, coaches) that are committed to keeping it that way. Their hard work has paid off and they should be very proud. AND…before someone claims that I’m a parent, player, or coach from one of those organizations…I’m not, just an observer.
Radar makes an excellent point let’s take CN as an example last year they had about 15 travel players on there roster with many of the players AA or better. This year they have about 7 travel players on their roster. This is a hugh difference in #’s of players that are playing/skating regurarly leading into the HS sesaon.
CN does not have a true feeder program like Suffern and the other programs have. In fact a portion of the CN travel players play in the Saints organization (better competition that the capital’s program) which is the feeder program for Suffern.
Ah,
Pelham feeds many private schools too. They lose about 3 to 4 players from the modified team to the high school every year. My sons modified team played Pelhams mod team a few weeks ago and Pelhams team was strong. I spoke to a Pelham parent and heres what he said. Pelham youth is a B level program in Hud valley league with one team at each level. It is run by parents not the varsity coach. They lose maybe 3 or 4 players a year going into high school. The youth travel teams do have out of town kids which I am sure impacts the high school. The parent also said the high school never does cutting of players. The average roster on the high school team is almost always between 18-22 players and the coach takes them all. Only a few high schoolers do outside travel maybe because they play a very competitive schedule. Mamaroneck on the other hand has multiple teams and house leagues. They have a strict residents rule with few or no out of towners allowed. I think its because the rink is a recreation department program. They have it set up perfectly, full modified, junior varsity, and a ton of great skaters. Suffern has its own youth program as does Rye. I think these teams have great winning tradition and that plays a major role
fan,
Rye has traditionally been hit with kids going off to prep school. There are others but one hockey kid in particular was Tommy Schmicker (would have grad in ‘05). He had been named to the NHL draft list. Great lacrosse player also. Now starting lacrosse face-off man at Cornell.
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The LI Royals have a game on saturday that ends at 5:30. How is Joe Reagan going to be at his high school game that starts at 7:25?
How do you think? Then again who cares unless your betting on the game. LOL
reagan doesnt start every game and the royals have first locked up but they do have to bring a goalie up because in jrs you need 2 goalies..maybe let the step backup dress gods knows he wont see the ice i the finals…unless i 95 is backed-up
I agree with most of what Radar said except the idea that JJ has ever gone on a run. They have been protenders for years, what have they ever won? They think they have some rivalry with Pelham, but Pelham beats them every time. They even beat the hell out of them in the fight they had last year, it was comical, four of Pelhams senior captains beat that team all over the ice. Rye, and Fox Lane are Pelhams only division 2 rivals, JJ is a joke of a team who gets their butts kicked by everybody.
Pelham has 5 kids playing hockey other than high school
Duff, Flory, Clay, Dzenis and Harms, so like 75% dont play travel
Rye has replaced Fox Lane as Pelham’s d-2 rival. Fox lane faced off against pelham in the sectional final 3 years in a row I believe.
to be considered rivals you need to beat the team once in a while. JJ has never beaten Pelham in any game. Rye beat Pelham for the first time in a long time this year. Rye would be considered more of a rival